lol 6 last vots were fake

[dion]

Demy 6 last vots were fakes. Nobody of these players play rome total war(expect fabio). Aragon was just desperated that he waste all his day for voting with fake accounts. I think that he visited all his family rofl. All these votes are propably from corona california. I was sure that hos will cheat this again.

[Gladdemmy]

only problem is dion, if they have same IP i can count them as fakes, if they dont (.i.e. if they are using proxies) there is nothing i can do. if go down the road of u think this ones fake, and they think this ones fake; then we have no way of IP verifying it.. then it just becomes subjective.

u know what i mean, how do i confirm it?

also dont forget... non-clan players can vote to, i have put multiple links on the total war tv channel and also on the steam group... the more non-clanners vote the better actually, cause it dilutes the clan bias in the vote. if u know what i mean. makes the clan votes less influential. which is a good thing, if thats whats happening; i dont know if thats whats happening or not.

how do u know those 6 weren't TWTV watchers?

or shogun players, or medieval 2 players..or empire players, they watch the channel too.


u see my dilemma ?


only thing i can do is discount, same IP votes.. (are any of those 6 u talk about, have the same IP) ?
i cant do anything against proxies , or other corruption.

have to hope the voter community gets to about 80. or so then, then clan votes will be much much less significant.

it i think it will Dion, cause people like to vote. i will continue to promote it on channel, so u might be surpised how many people start to vote.


sorry i dont have the tools to do anything further.. unless u have something in mind


(check the IPs, and get back to me).

[dion]

mate i clearly know which players voted for me, because i asked them. Hos used fake accounts from few cpu. I clearly and fair won this poll.
I said you that polls make no sense at all, because its too easy to cheat. Do you realize that you can also post hos reply without this poll.

[dion]

who voted for hos:
axpel
marine230
alexanderholclan
kexuasmero
deonmm
hobbit10
evolubiik
iberwolf

Read more: forumtotalwartv.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ap&action=display&thread=318#ixzz1zGHbvAwZ

[dion]

i was wining without these vots. Did you now these players? I know one of them rest are fakes.

[Gladdemmy]

dion read what i wrote properly please: i talked about potential non-clan players voting, and also med2 or shogun2 claners voting... i have been promoting the voting on the channel, and steam group, to get as many as possible, to drown out the clan biases*

[Gladdemmy]

in conclusion i dont know if those members are clan or non clan members; how do i know, there doesnt seem to be duplicate IPs.

[dion]

lol mate i was wining 13-6 and lost 16-14. All these accounts were made by one person in same time (during the night in europe). I dont belive that all these vots were from nonclanies;). All these vots were from usa;)., propably from corona california.

[Gladdemmy]

-im not saying u wrong dion; im saying the USA thing is not that powerful evidence cause USA has more players as a nation then any other single nation, so there is a lot of USA players.

-secondly i look through the IP's of the ones u mentioned and none are identical
(obviously this doesn't consider Proxies) (i have no tools to investigate proxies).

-thirdly, i have been promoting on channel and steam group which means; more people out side direct rome community could be voting - ( not saying they are for sure... but for example someone posted on latest video and asked " where to vote", i gave him link. (and 4 people have watched that video).

so what more can i do technically, if u have a suspicion, its a suspicion... what else can i fairly do ?

would it be fair to discount them on the basis of a suspicion ?

or do i need evidence beyond reasonable doubt ?


?

[derg]

Oh god dion stop crying. I didn't fake any votes, no one did. Those players are Mythodea's friends from RTW and gameranger... you can ask him himself.

Sigh.... Its ok Dion. I'll get you a tissue so you can cry.

[dion]

lol mate do what you want, but dont expect that i will send you another reply, because i dont want cheat like hos, and wining poll without cheating is impossible for me or others friendly clans. I dont want waste my time and ask my real friends or family for voting like aragon did;). I said you that these polls are totally bad idea. Look 13-6 and in few last hours 16-14. (one vote was from real clan player only). If you cant check proxys you shouldnt do polls.
ps Mate do you saw what saint wrote about me here again, more racist insulings m8. T didnt want said that, but they totally act like idiots i feal sorry for theirs parents.

[dion]

aragon you cheated many times in tournaments, hacked websites, clan wars. How anyone can belive that you didnt cheated again?

[dion]

bw aragon you disbanded and cheated all yours last clans(pk and taow). You and yours new friends wrote ahy ( yours last friend and leader) cd key on public forum. I am courius when you will crush hos?

[Gladdemmy]

1) i said if it gets 80 people voting, its will relatively fair and functional.

2) yes u are correct i cant do anything about proxies (however i dont have time to upload 1 from every clan, therefore vote is only way of deciding on one (im not gonna pick one replay only for people to rage at me, can u imagine that? (can u imagine, how much manipulation people would try do it, and they already have (its not pleasant for me)).

3) i said there is no rules on this forum yet, i cant arbitrarily ban someone for using racism, considering everyone uses it and im the only one moderating this, i couldn't moderate it fast enough to get ird of it all. (and i don't hand over moderation to clan community- (this current feud with u and hos is reason why i couldn't get clan moderators) (cause they cant be impartial, it would be chaos, and when one person gets bitter ... bang they delete all threads in forum..lol.. they do thats stuff all the time, when they get bitter, and need to vent). the other total war tv commentators are only ones who have moderator powers, and they not active cause they busy with university i think. ( i picked them for being nice guys, and fair.) i dont trust other people with privileges... (cause people hacking, deleting abusing people all the time) how many times have people deleted the CCC ? (3) ?

in a way u asking me to be superman; but i can only do what i have the time and means to do.

(if i get active TWTV commentators on here, i will moderate it.)

we will see how many people vote from the TW community; it may be more then u think. ( we will see)

[derg]

Jun 30, 2012 19:40:08 GMT 11 dion said:

aragon you cheated many times in tournaments, hacked websites, clan wars. How anyone can belive that you didnt cheated again?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. I cheated in tournaments? So, I won CoN with Numidia by cheating and the other 8+ tournaments? Please cry some more Dion.


And yes, Ahy deserved EVERYTHING he got, he is a worthless piece of gypsy shit. Why do you think everyone left TAoW? Because I "betrayed" him? lmao. He can suck my dick.

And what do you know of PK and TAoW? You're a newbish shit whose played for 1 year and completely sucks ass.

Now stop crying like a little bitch and get over yourself. Someone give lady Dion a tampoon so she can plug her vagina.

[Saint]

lol Mythodea's friends are from latin america I believe - dw dion they're all "real" (lmao)

really though you dumb polish shit, Zeke told me about when Tacitus faked reeve in a 2v2 tournament a few years ago and lost on purpose so Paullus and whoever his ally was could win the tournament

talk more about "honorable clans:)" you dumb fuck, it's hilarious (even more so considering this is a fucking videogame, who cares?)

I won more tournaments in 30 days than your clan has in its entire history, and I did so with the type of "honor" you seem to think your pathetic geek clan has, so you are free to piss off now and suck tac's dick:)